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ONE ON
ONE WITH JOE CALLERO (CAL POLY)
by John
Parenti, CollegeInsider.com
Joe
Callero is in the midst of his first season as head
coach of Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo. The school has
had an up and down ride in the Big West the last ten
years and after a 3-13 conference record in 2008-09,
Callero was hired to build a consistent program.
Previously he helped rebuild the basketball fortunes
of D-II Seattle University, turning the Redhawks
into a 20-win per year program. Picked to finish
last by the coaches and the media, Callero’s Cal
Poly team is a very respectable 6-6 in conference
play.
Callero grew up in a family of 16 children, so that
led to CI’s first question...
CI: What’s it like growing up in a family of
16 children?
Callero: The most amazing thing about growing
up in a family of 16 is that you don’t know any
different. You don’t even think it is a big deal
until you are about 15 or 16 years old and you go to
church and you realize that everyone is looking at
you because your family takes up two full pews.
We moved to a “hobby farm” in the suburbs of Seattle
when I was about 10 years old. Dad was a general
practitioner and he wanted to buy this 40-acre ranch
on Mercer Island. We had an old barn and a new barn
and dad put a basketball court in the new barn, plus
we had an outdoor court, too.
I spent the next eight years of my life playing
basketball in my spare time against my brothers. Two
of my older brothers were very successful high
school players, so my battles were against them.
Then following me all of my younger brothers
continued to play basketball throughout high school
and several of them went on to play college
basketball.
CI: Where did you play college ball? When and
how did you decide to be a coach, and what is
coaching to you?
Callero: I played at Central Washington for
Dean Nicholson, who’s a Hall of Fame coach and a
real expert at dealing with people. He was able to
squeeze the most out of everybody. I learned a lot
about player management and team management from
him.
I redshirted one year between my junior and senior
year, and that’s when I started to look at the game
differently. As a point guard I looked at the game
as being a leader; as a coach I started to look at
the game as an evaluator. Should we do this? Maybe
we should do that? I started watching game film, and
as a result started viewing the game differently.
Coaching is not about coaching a sport, but coaching
the people in the sport. As a coach, you get a feel
for your team. The more I coach, I learn it is less
about X’ and O’s, and more about the Jimmies and
Joes. It is more about the art of coaching than the
science of coaching.
CI: You were head coach at Seattle University
for eight years, and the last four all resulted in
20-win seasons. What were some of the keys to that
success?
Callero: The first year or two we tried to
put together a good team. What we found out is that
you can build a good team, but you also have to
build a good program. We were able to improve our
talent level and improve or won/loss total a little
bit. We had some early success going from six wins
to 16 wins.
However, we weren’t able to sustain it until we
looked at it from a program perspective instead of a
team perspective. That was one of my points in
coming to Cal Poly; I didn’t want to build just a
team but a program.
CI: Is there a difference in how you recruit
for a D-I program versus a D-II program?
Callero: Not really. We always try, whether
at Seattle or Cal Poly, to recruit student athletes
who have the emotional stability and emotional
stamina.
Most coaches don’t talk about this stuff. But we’ve
found that at high academic schools like Seattle and
Cal Poly, if we find a student athlete who is really
emotionally stable, who is emotionally connected to
the coaching staff and emotionally committed to the
university, that they are able to handle the highs
and the lows of the season along with the highs and
lows of their career, academics, injuries and social
life.
If you look at the high-major teams, they are going
to get the top 100 recruits. We’re not going to get
them…YET. But we’re going to get the slightly
overlooked player who has the hunger and drive and
stability to develop and contribute and graduate.
CI: Are the NCAA rules for D-II different
than for D-I?
Callero: Yes! And that is a very good
question. As a D-II coach in a metropolitan area, we
had many more evaluation days. Our Summer Evaluation
Period is longer. As an example, I was consistently
in the Bay Area for a large tournament at Marin
Catholic, and that was in mid-June. The D-I schools
weren’t even allowed out during that time. D-I has a
21-day recruiting period; D-II has a 45-day
recruiting period, from mid-June to the end of July.
I estimated that on an annual basis, we saw twice as
many kids and evaluated kids twice as much as our
D-I counterparts. That was a tremendous advantage
because (in a metro area) we could go to a game
every single night.
One of the biggest recruiting challenges for me and
one of the biggest changes for me between D-I and
D-II is the limits there are on our recruiting and
how isolated we are in terms of getting to those
recruits. The other big difference is in the number
of scholarships. In D-II we could give out 10, but
in D-I it’s 13. With 13 scholarships, a school is
more willing to take more chances on players.
But at the D-II level we wouldn’t risk a scholarship
on someone who was not going to be able to
contribute. We didn’t have the luxury. We were
always amazed at which players got scholarships to
D-I schools, when we weren’t willing to give a
scholarship to some of those same players. We were
much more conservative, much more thorough and much
more cautious.
CI: Remembering your first team meeting with
your players at Cal Poly, what did you say to them?
Callero: I got a chance to meet with the
whole team for about a half hour. I’m at an age when
I’m aware of what and who I am, and what I can
bring. I assured them that there are always
differences when there is a new coach.
I stressed that I didn’t want to be hip or cool, but
I am dying to care about them, teach them and
embrace them. I think they understood that I wasn’t
going to be anything but sincere and hard working
and most people will embrace that. We really didn’t
have any defections. One young man transferred to a
JC to be closer to home, and another had some
academic issues.
CI: Poly was picked to finish last in the Big
West in every media and coaches’ poll but you’ve
definitely exceeded expectations. Can you put your
finger on it?
Callero: I think it starts off with a new
coach and that made us the underdogs; you kind of
get a couple extra points to start off with when
you’re picked last. The opponents’ coaches and
players have a tendency to look at those polls and
think this should be an easy game, that the team
picked to be last is not very good.
I think we’ve caught some teams in unfavorable
positions or teams that were looking past us. But we
had a lot of road games and that has helped to give
us character, toughness and experience. Picking us
last in the conference worked as a motivating factor
for about one day. We have “one day contracts.”
Don’t worry about what somebody said about yesterday
or what someone is saying about tomorrow. Let’s just
do our jobs today!
CI: What is your game day routine?
Callero: I have a pretty good routine. I try
to get a little extra sleep, about 30 to 45 minutes
extra. I have a decent breakfast, do a lot of
reading in the morning and take care of details.
That includes freshening my notes.
I usually meet the team in late morning or early
afternoon for a shoot around that lasts about an
hour. When the team goes to its pre-game meal, I
usually go for a run for about an hour. Then I like
to relax for a while, watch some more game tape, eat
very lightly…it helps to calm me down.
We try to encourage the team to eat something that
flies or swims. And to eat something they’ve eaten
before. Don’t try something new on game day. We
always try to arrive at the game site 90 minutes
before game time, time enough for the players to get
dressed at a casual rate, get taped, stretch, hang
out and get to the court one-hour before game time.
They do some light shooting for about 15 minutes,
then it’s back to the locker room to meet with me.
For about 15 minutes, we’ll review the game plan one
more time. Then I might meet with an alum or a
potential recruit (if it’s a home game). The team
returns to the floor for some pre-game warm-up
drills and then it’s game time.
CI: Have you ever been in awe of an opposing
team, or the surroundings of their home court?
Callero: There can be times, as a player or a
coach, when a spectacular environment can catch you
off-guard. I’ll tell you a little story about that.
A couple of years ago, we scheduled a game between
Seattle University and Kentucky to commemorate the
50th Anniversary of the 1958 National Championship
game. We were their first exhibition game of the
year. They were starting their first game with Billy
Gillespie as their new coach. We got down there a
day early and got to practice on the court, and I
invited some alumni down to the floor. Here we were
in Rupp Arena, with 22,000 blue seats. We were
definitely excited about the game.
The Kentucky fans packed the place and we were
introduced. Then they turned off the lights for
them, and I said, “OK great, I figured they would do
that.” The spotlight was on their players and the
music was playing and it was cool. And then they
started shooting fireworks off the top of the
backboard. It was like Vegas or the NBA.
As a coach I said to myself, “I guess this is the
Big Time.” There were 22,000 people for an
exhibition game in Kentucky for the start of the
Gillespie era. We were a little shell shocked, got
behind early, but fought back to make it a very
respectable game for a D-II team to play a national
power on their floor. It’s essential to have those
experiences because it gives your team a chance to
grow and develop.
CI: Is there anything you would like to add?
Callero: Coaching, to me, is like growing up
in my family of 16 children. Staff and players are
like family. It’s not about me but more about being
part of a family growing and living as a unit.
Finally, thank you having the interest in talking
about the Cal Poly program.
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